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<p>69.198.211.152: </p> <hr /> <div>Some examples to show how messed up our math system is:<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [01:39:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 1/9<br /> [01:39:41] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.111111<br /> [01:39:49] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.111111*9<br /> [01:39:49] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1<br /> [01:39:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [01:39:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:39:59] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:40:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ive been doing math wrong for years<br /> [01:47:23] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Haha<br /> [01:47:35] &lt;Lotho&gt; Hikaru79, did that code make sense?<br /> [01:48:19] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Lotho, surprisingly yes.<br /> [01:48:39] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; The last arg is the method's body?<br /> [01:48:55] &lt;Lotho&gt; yep<br /> [01:49:06] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; That explains why you've been slicing args size -2<br /> [01:49:10] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; I was meaning to ask about that. But now I get it.<br /> [01:49:15] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Yes, I understand that code now :D<br /> [01:49:20] &lt;Lotho&gt; it's an unevaluated message, so doMessage... well, you likely get the picture<br /> [01:52:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; YA<br /> [01:53:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; NO<br /> [01:53:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; hehe<br /> [01:53:24] * Hikaru79 is now known as Hikaru79|Zzz<br /> [01:53:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 1=0.999999999999999999999999999<br /> [01:53:30] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmm<br /> [01:53:31] &lt;Hikaru79|Zzz&gt; I'm drifting off x-x Can't stay up anymore.<br /> [01:53:35] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i think we have a problem<br /> [01:53:36] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:54:39] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.999999999999999999999999999/9<br /> [01:54:39] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.111111<br /> [01:54:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 1/7<br /> [01:54:56] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.142857<br /> [01:55:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.142856*7<br /> [01:55:03] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1<br /> [01:55:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm wtf<br /> [01:55:10] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:55:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; this world i think might be falling apart<br /> [01:55:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:55:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 10/9<br /> [01:55:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 109<br /> [01:56:00] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 109<br /> [01:56:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 10/<br /> [01:56:02] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Value expected<br /> [01:56:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 10/9<br /> [01:56:04] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1.111111<br /> [01:56:15] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; *9 = 9.999999<br /> [01:56:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so 10 = 9.999999<br /> [01:56:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmm<br /> [01:56:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:56:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh<br /> [01:56:38] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no wonder my math teacher said i was wrong<br /> [01:57:03] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc e^e<br /> [01:57:04] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 15.154262<br /> [01:57:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; weird<br /> [01:57:48] &lt;TheFerret&gt; its a face upside down<br /> [01:58:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; e = 2.71828183<br /> [01:58:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ....<br /> [01:58:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; e^e &lt;-face upside down<br /> [01:58:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya ya ya<br /> [01:58:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [01:58:33] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol... heheh<br /> [01:58:39] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc :P<br /> [01:58:39] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unknown character in expression<br /> [01:58:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; fails miserably<br /> [01:58:47] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:59:01] &lt;TheFerret&gt; it would be more like this...<br /> [01:59:07] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pie<br /> [01:59:07] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:11] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc p<br /> [01:59:11] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc the world round<br /> [01:59:15] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:18] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pi<br /> [01:59:18] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 3.141593<br /> [01:59:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc the sqrt of pi<br /> [01:59:20] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol, mmm ppie<br /> [01:59:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT!<br /> [01:59:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pi^(1/2)<br /> [01:59:36] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 1.772454<br /> [01:59:37] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ha<br /> [01:59:43] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc find something good to eat and see how many times you can eat it before turning into poo<br /> [01:59:43] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1.772454*1.772454<br /> [01:59:56] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 3.141593<br /> [01:59:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; stupid calculator<br /> [02:00:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (-pi)^(1/3)<br /> [02:00:30] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.682784<br /> [02:00:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (-pi)^(1/2)<br /> [02:00:35] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.564190<br /> [02:00:41] &lt;TheFerret&gt; wtf<br /> [02:01:00] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you cant have a square root of a negative #<br /> [02:01:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:01:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; MUHAHAHA, ive broken math<br /> [02:01:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=1<br /> [02:01:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2-1=0<br /> [02:01:52] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1/pi<br /> [02:01:53] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.318310<br /> [02:02:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=0<br /> [02:02:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:02:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh ya forgot to expand<br /> [02:02:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:02:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:02:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:02:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=1<br /> [02:02:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2-1=1^2-1<br /> [02:02:55] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh, so hard reading and doing math on irc<br /> [02:03:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x^2-1)(x^2-1) = 0<br /> [02:03:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol i did that wrng<br /> [02:03:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:11] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:03:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x-1)=0<br /> [02:03:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; anyhow<br /> [02:03:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so you want x^2-1 expanded&gt;<br /> [02:03:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you understand how i got to that :P<br /> [02:03:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; no<br /> [02:03:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:03:45] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh ok<br /> [02:03:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill redo it<br /> [02:03:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill just do x2 for x^2 ok ?<br /> [02:03:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; k<br /> [02:04:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:04:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2=12<br /> [02:04:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2=1<br /> [02:04:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; right?<br /> [02:04:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya, so x = 1<br /> [02:04:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ok now minus 1 from both sides<br /> [02:04:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2-1=0<br /> [02:04:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; factor<br /> [02:05:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x+1)=0<br /> [02:05:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x = +-1<br /> [02:05:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x = -1 is extranous<br /> [02:06:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hehe yup<br /> [02:06:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; really funny though<br /> [02:06:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :)<br /> [02:06:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but you could do thsi way 2<br /> [02:06:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yeah<br /> [02:06:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1 and x2 = 1<br /> [02:06:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; we did that is math<br /> [02:06:24] &lt;TheFerret&gt; this year<br /> [02:06:33] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2-1 = x-1<br /> [02:06:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x+1) = x-1<br /> [02:08:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; then x+1=1 (divide by x-1)<br /> [02:08:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x+1 = 12<br /> [02:08:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=2<br /> [02:08:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmmmm<br /> [02:08:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so 1=2<br /> [02:08:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yah, i made a type<br /> [02:08:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; typo*... lol<br /> [02:08:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so many ways to do it<br /> [02:08:35] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :)<br /> [02:09:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i cant find the other one yet<br /> [02:09:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; there is this other math one where its like how sqrt will never work<br /> [02:09:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; its weird<br /> [02:09:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; and i cant figure it out<br /> [02:09:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; square root of negative # in the real number system :P<br /> [02:09:46] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya i know<br /> [02:10:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; it uses imaginary numbers<br /> [02:10:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but something goes weird<br /> [02:10:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:10:52] &lt;TheFerret&gt; doesnt seem to be on good<br /> [02:10:55] &lt;TheFerret&gt; google*<br /> [02:11:24] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:11:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; -x=-1<br /> [02:11:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; bah i cant think of it lol<br /> [02:11:50] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:12:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; what do you call those things?<br /> [02:12:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; math theories or something<br /> [02:12:42] &lt;TheFerret&gt; something like that<br /> [02:14:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; what a cool eq^n: ( n +1)^2 = n^2 + n + ( n +1)<br /> [02:16:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (4+1)^2<br /> [02:16:09] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 25<br /> [02:16:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 4^2 + 4 + 5<br /> [02:16:25] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 25<br /> [02:16:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:16:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:16:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (n+1)(n+1) = (n+1)^2<br /> [02:17:03] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i found that off some website<br /> [02:17:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; n^2 + n + n + 1<br /> [02:17:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; n^2 + 2n + 1<br /> [02:17:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P Quadratics dumbass :P<br /> [02:17:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=2&amp;url=http%3A//www.embedded.com/98/9802fe2.htm&amp;ei=b8a8Q5S9BISo-gH3pInKDg&amp;sig2=-yLeCSQEIROpjHqCundlYQ<br /> [02:17:51] &lt;TheFerret&gt; friden algo<br /> [02:18:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ^ i just prove the freaking thing above<br /> [02:18:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:18:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; except its less<br /> [02:18:17] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you did<br /> [02:18:17] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; HAHAHAH: Method to Find Square Root of Pi<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; Date: 03/30/97 at 18:36:36<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; From: Jeff Houk<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; Subject: Method to Find Square Root of Pi<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; What is the square root of Pi? I tried using a calculator, but <br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; that didn't work. I tried trial and error and Guess and Check, <br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; but neither of those helped either. HELP!<br /> [02:18:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; !!<br /> [02:18:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:18:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc sqrt [ pi ]<br /> [02:19:00] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1.772454<br /> [02:19:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:19:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58261.html<br /> [02:19:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; im thinking along the lines of<br /> [02:20:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[-1] = i<br /> [02:20:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; right?<br /> [02:20:17] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = 1<br /> [02:20:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:20:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so hmmm<br /> [02:20:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i think thats right<br /> [02:20:43] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -1<br /> [02:20:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = i<br /> [02:21:11] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:21:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya<br /> [02:21:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmm<br /> [02:21:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; -1 = 1<br /> [02:21:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; weird<br /> [02:21:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; cant prove that wrong<br /> [02:21:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:21:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but i guess +- x = 1<br /> [02:22:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:22:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but the thing is .... then 1 = -1<br /> [02:22:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :///<br /> [02:22:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2 = -2<br /> [02:22:15] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh my GOD<br /> [02:22:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:22:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:22:30] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -2<br /> [02:22:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = sqrt [ -2 ]<br /> [02:22:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; whats sqrt of -2<br /> [02:22:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2i ?<br /> [02:22:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:23:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = 2 i<br /> [02:23:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 2<br /> [02:23:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:23:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT<br /> [02:23:24] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:23:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you did it wrong<br /> [02:23:32] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; where?<br /> [02:23:47] &lt;TheFerret&gt; it should be sqrt (x) = sqrt (2)i<br /> [02:24:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no<br /> [02:24:18] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yes<br /> [02:24:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ..... how would i get i without sqrooting<br /> [02:24:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:24:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i = -1<br /> [02:24:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you are forgetting something<br /> [02:25:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 2^(1/2)<br /> [02:25:09] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 1.414214<br /> [02:25:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill do it again<br /> [02:25:22] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -2<br /> [02:25:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1.414214 * 1.414214<br /> [02:25:32] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 2<br /> [02:25:38] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = sqrt [ -2 ] (Square Root Both Sides)<br /> [02:25:39] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x=-2<br /> [02:25:46] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = 2i<br /> [02:25:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2*i = -2<br /> [02:26:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2i^2 = 2<br /> [02:26:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:26:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yet again 2=-2<br /> [02:26:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 3=-3<br /> [02:26:31] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ...<br /> [02:26:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; if you were to square both sides, the roots drop and all you are left with is x=2<br /> [02:26:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x=-2*<br /> [02:26:43] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:26:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT<br /> [02:26:51] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yes<br /> [02:26:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but im not simplifying yet<br /> [02:26:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:27:01] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:27:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i change to imaginary numbers because sqrt of a negative number<br /> [02:27:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; good ole messed up math system<br /> [02:27:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yup<br /> [02:27:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; isnt i^2, `<br /> [02:27:59] &lt;TheFerret&gt; 1*<br /> [02:28:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yes<br /> [02:28:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; thats the point<br /> [02:28:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:28:23] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so it would be 2(-1)^2=2<br /> [02:28:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no<br /> [02:28:42] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; it would be<br /> [02:28:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2(sqrt[-1])^2<br /> [02:28:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so it would be 2<br /> [02:29:06] &lt;TheFerret&gt; where did the root come from<br /> [02:29:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:29:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=1<br /> [02:29:31] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=-1***<br /> [02:29:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yeah<br /> [02:29:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm whats going on now im so confused<br /> [02:29:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:30:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so its 2(sqrt-1) * 2(sqrt-1) =2<br /> [02:30:48] &lt;TheFerret&gt; or 2i *2i =2<br /> [02:31:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i*i=1<br /> [02:31:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i dont even know anymore lol<br /> [02:31:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; !!!<br /> [02:31:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=-1<br /> [02:31:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i^2=1<br /> [02:31:27] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no its negative 1<br /> [02:31:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; its one<br /> [02:31:32] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; WTF is going on<br /> [02:31:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[-1] = i<br /> [02:31:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; that doesn't work man<br /> [02:31:51] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ok, it is -1<br /> [02:31:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; fuck i told you 1=-1<br /> [02:32:00] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2=-2<br /> [02:32:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; jeez this is taking to long<br /> [02:32:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:12] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:22] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i better go to bed soon<br /> [02:32:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:24] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh<br /> [02:32:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; how did i get i^2 to =1 then<br /> [02:32:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; exactly<br /> [02:32:42] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:33:23] &lt;TheFerret&gt; wait for that it would be (-1)*(-1)=1 which is true<br /> [02:33:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so i proved that you are right<br /> [02:33:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm now to just document it<br /> [02:33:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; and sell on ebay<br /> [02:33:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; loo<br /> [02:34:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; l<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; in Imaginary Numbers<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so (Since squareroot cancels out)<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = -1<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=-1<br /> [02:36:45] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:36:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = i<br /> [02:36:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = i^2<br /> [02:36:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = sqrt[-1]^2<br /> [02:36:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -1<br /> [02:36:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you must covert to sqrt[-1] otherwise....<br /> [02:37:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = i^2<br /> [02:37:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1^2<br /> [02:37:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:37:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; minute wtf<br /> [02:37:21] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i did something wrong?<br /> [02:37:31] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:37:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = -1 not 1<br /> [02:37:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; thats why<br /> [02:37:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:37:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; we fucked up really good<br /> [02:37:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:38:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; we r dumbass<br /> [02:38:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:38:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh, did we... lol<br /> [02:38:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; now i really gotta find it online<br /> ( 21:42:28 ) ( @Ultrahex ) -1/1 = 1/-1<br /> ( 21:42:33 ) ( @Ultrahex ) sqrt(-1/1) = sqrt(1/-1)<br /> ( 21:42:37 ) ( @Ultrahex ) sqrt(-1) / sqrt(1) = sqrt(1) / sqrt(-1)<br /> ( 21:42:41 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i/1 = 1/i.<br /> ( 21:42:44 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i / 2 = 1 / (2i),<br /> ( 21:42:48 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i/2 + 3/(2i) = 1/(2i) + 3/(2i),<br /> ( 21:42:53 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i (i/2 + 3/(2i) ) = i ( 1/(2i) + 3/(2i) ),<br /> ( 21:42:56 ) ( @Ultrahex ) (i^2)/2 + (3i)/2i = i/(2i) + (3i)/(2i),<br /> ( 21:43:00 ) ( @Ultrahex ) (-1)/2 + 3/2 = 1/2 + 3/2,<br /> ( 21:43:03 ) ( @Ultrahex ) 1=2.<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

69.198.211.152 http://wiki.compsci.ca/index.php?title=Math 2006-01-17T02:40:59Z

<p>69.198.211.152: </p> <hr /> <div>Some examples to show how messed up our math system is:<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [01:39:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 1/9<br /> [01:39:41] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.111111<br /> [01:39:49] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.111111*9<br /> [01:39:49] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1<br /> [01:39:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [01:39:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:39:59] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:40:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ive been doing math wrong for years<br /> [01:47:23] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Haha<br /> [01:47:35] &lt;Lotho&gt; Hikaru79, did that code make sense?<br /> [01:48:19] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Lotho, surprisingly yes.<br /> [01:48:39] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; The last arg is the method's body?<br /> [01:48:55] &lt;Lotho&gt; yep<br /> [01:49:06] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; That explains why you've been slicing args size -2<br /> [01:49:10] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; I was meaning to ask about that. But now I get it.<br /> [01:49:15] &lt;Hikaru79&gt; Yes, I understand that code now :D<br /> [01:49:20] &lt;Lotho&gt; it's an unevaluated message, so doMessage... well, you likely get the picture<br /> [01:52:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; YA<br /> [01:53:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; NO<br /> [01:53:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; hehe<br /> [01:53:24] * Hikaru79 is now known as Hikaru79|Zzz<br /> [01:53:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 1=0.999999999999999999999999999<br /> [01:53:30] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmm<br /> [01:53:31] &lt;Hikaru79|Zzz&gt; I'm drifting off x-x Can't stay up anymore.<br /> [01:53:35] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i think we have a problem<br /> [01:53:36] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:54:39] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.999999999999999999999999999/9<br /> [01:54:39] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.111111<br /> [01:54:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 1/7<br /> [01:54:56] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 0.142857<br /> [01:55:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 0.142856*7<br /> [01:55:03] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1<br /> [01:55:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm wtf<br /> [01:55:10] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:55:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; this world i think might be falling apart<br /> [01:55:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:55:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 10/9<br /> [01:55:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 109<br /> [01:56:00] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 109<br /> [01:56:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 10/<br /> [01:56:02] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Value expected<br /> [01:56:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc 10/9<br /> [01:56:04] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1.111111<br /> [01:56:15] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; *9 = 9.999999<br /> [01:56:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so 10 = 9.999999<br /> [01:56:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmm<br /> [01:56:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [01:56:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh<br /> [01:56:38] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no wonder my math teacher said i was wrong<br /> [01:57:03] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc e^e<br /> [01:57:04] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 15.154262<br /> [01:57:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; weird<br /> [01:57:48] &lt;TheFerret&gt; its a face upside down<br /> [01:58:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; e = 2.71828183<br /> [01:58:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ....<br /> [01:58:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; e^e &lt;-face upside down<br /> [01:58:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya ya ya<br /> [01:58:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [01:58:33] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol... heheh<br /> [01:58:39] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc :P<br /> [01:58:39] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unknown character in expression<br /> [01:58:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; fails miserably<br /> [01:58:47] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [01:59:01] &lt;TheFerret&gt; it would be more like this...<br /> [01:59:07] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pie<br /> [01:59:07] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:11] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc p<br /> [01:59:11] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc the world round<br /> [01:59:15] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:18] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pi<br /> [01:59:18] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 3.141593<br /> [01:59:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc the sqrt of pi<br /> [01:59:20] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol, mmm ppie<br /> [01:59:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT!<br /> [01:59:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc pi^(1/2)<br /> [01:59:36] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 1.772454<br /> [01:59:37] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ha<br /> [01:59:43] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc find something good to eat and see how many times you can eat it before turning into poo<br /> [01:59:43] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: Unexpected Identifier<br /> [01:59:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1.772454*1.772454<br /> [01:59:56] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 3.141593<br /> [01:59:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; stupid calculator<br /> [02:00:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (-pi)^(1/3)<br /> [02:00:30] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.682784<br /> [02:00:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (-pi)^(1/2)<br /> [02:00:35] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.564190<br /> [02:00:41] &lt;TheFerret&gt; wtf<br /> [02:01:00] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you cant have a square root of a negative #<br /> [02:01:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:01:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; MUHAHAHA, ive broken math<br /> [02:01:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=1<br /> [02:01:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2-1=0<br /> [02:01:52] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1/pi<br /> [02:01:53] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 0.318310<br /> [02:02:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=0<br /> [02:02:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:02:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh ya forgot to expand<br /> [02:02:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:02:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:02:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:02:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2=1<br /> [02:02:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x^2-1=1^2-1<br /> [02:02:55] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh, so hard reading and doing math on irc<br /> [02:03:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x^2-1)(x^2-1) = 0<br /> [02:03:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol i did that wrng<br /> [02:03:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:03:11] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:03:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x-1)=0<br /> [02:03:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; anyhow<br /> [02:03:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so you want x^2-1 expanded&gt;<br /> [02:03:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you understand how i got to that :P<br /> [02:03:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; no<br /> [02:03:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:03:45] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh ok<br /> [02:03:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill redo it<br /> [02:03:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill just do x2 for x^2 ok ?<br /> [02:03:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; k<br /> [02:04:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:04:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2=12<br /> [02:04:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2=1<br /> [02:04:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; right?<br /> [02:04:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya, so x = 1<br /> [02:04:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ok now minus 1 from both sides<br /> [02:04:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2-1=0<br /> [02:04:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; factor<br /> [02:05:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x+1)=0<br /> [02:05:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x = +-1<br /> [02:05:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x = -1 is extranous<br /> [02:06:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hehe yup<br /> [02:06:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; really funny though<br /> [02:06:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :)<br /> [02:06:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but you could do thsi way 2<br /> [02:06:15] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yeah<br /> [02:06:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1 and x2 = 1<br /> [02:06:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; we did that is math<br /> [02:06:24] &lt;TheFerret&gt; this year<br /> [02:06:33] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x2-1 = x-1<br /> [02:06:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (x-1)(x+1) = x-1<br /> [02:08:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; then x+1=1 (divide by x-1)<br /> [02:08:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x+1 = 12<br /> [02:08:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=2<br /> [02:08:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmmmmm<br /> [02:08:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so 1=2<br /> [02:08:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yah, i made a type<br /> [02:08:29] &lt;TheFerret&gt; typo*... lol<br /> [02:08:34] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so many ways to do it<br /> [02:08:35] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :)<br /> [02:09:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i cant find the other one yet<br /> [02:09:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; there is this other math one where its like how sqrt will never work<br /> [02:09:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; its weird<br /> [02:09:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; and i cant figure it out<br /> [02:09:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; square root of negative # in the real number system :P<br /> [02:09:46] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya i know<br /> [02:10:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; it uses imaginary numbers<br /> [02:10:07] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but something goes weird<br /> [02:10:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:10:52] &lt;TheFerret&gt; doesnt seem to be on good<br /> [02:10:55] &lt;TheFerret&gt; google*<br /> [02:11:24] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=1<br /> [02:11:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; -x=-1<br /> [02:11:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; bah i cant think of it lol<br /> [02:11:50] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:12:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; what do you call those things?<br /> [02:12:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; math theories or something<br /> [02:12:42] &lt;TheFerret&gt; something like that<br /> [02:14:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; what a cool eq^n: ( n +1)^2 = n^2 + n + ( n +1)<br /> [02:16:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc (4+1)^2<br /> [02:16:09] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 25<br /> [02:16:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 4^2 + 4 + 5<br /> [02:16:25] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 25<br /> [02:16:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:16:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:16:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; (n+1)(n+1) = (n+1)^2<br /> [02:17:03] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i found that off some website<br /> [02:17:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; n^2 + n + n + 1<br /> [02:17:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; n^2 + 2n + 1<br /> [02:17:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P Quadratics dumbass :P<br /> [02:17:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=2&amp;url=http%3A//www.embedded.com/98/9802fe2.htm&amp;ei=b8a8Q5S9BISo-gH3pInKDg&amp;sig2=-yLeCSQEIROpjHqCundlYQ<br /> [02:17:51] &lt;TheFerret&gt; friden algo<br /> [02:18:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ^ i just prove the freaking thing above<br /> [02:18:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:18:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; except its less<br /> [02:18:17] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you did<br /> [02:18:17] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; HAHAHAH: Method to Find Square Root of Pi<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; Date: 03/30/97 at 18:36:36<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; From: Jeff Houk<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; Subject: Method to Find Square Root of Pi<br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; What is the square root of Pi? I tried using a calculator, but <br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; that didn't work. I tried trial and error and Guess and Check, <br /> [02:18:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; but neither of those helped either. HELP!<br /> [02:18:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; !!<br /> [02:18:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ROFL<br /> [02:18:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; .calc sqrt [ pi ]<br /> [02:19:00] &lt;X3&gt; �Ultrahex�: 1.772454<br /> [02:19:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:19:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58261.html<br /> [02:19:47] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; im thinking along the lines of<br /> [02:20:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[-1] = i<br /> [02:20:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; right?<br /> [02:20:17] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = 1<br /> [02:20:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:20:26] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so hmmm<br /> [02:20:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i think thats right<br /> [02:20:43] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -1<br /> [02:20:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = i<br /> [02:21:11] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:21:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ya<br /> [02:21:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmm<br /> [02:21:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; -1 = 1<br /> [02:21:22] &lt;TheFerret&gt; weird<br /> [02:21:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; cant prove that wrong<br /> [02:21:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:21:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but i guess +- x = 1<br /> [02:22:02] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:22:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but the thing is .... then 1 = -1<br /> [02:22:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :///<br /> [02:22:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2 = -2<br /> [02:22:15] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; oh my GOD<br /> [02:22:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:22:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:22:30] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -2<br /> [02:22:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = sqrt [ -2 ]<br /> [02:22:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; whats sqrt of -2<br /> [02:22:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2i ?<br /> [02:22:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ya<br /> [02:23:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = 2 i<br /> [02:23:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 2<br /> [02:23:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm<br /> [02:23:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT<br /> [02:23:24] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:23:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; you did it wrong<br /> [02:23:32] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; where?<br /> [02:23:47] &lt;TheFerret&gt; it should be sqrt (x) = sqrt (2)i<br /> [02:24:12] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no<br /> [02:24:18] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yes<br /> [02:24:28] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ..... how would i get i without sqrooting<br /> [02:24:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:24:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i = -1<br /> [02:24:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you are forgetting something<br /> [02:25:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 2^(1/2)<br /> [02:25:09] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 1.414214<br /> [02:25:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ill do it again<br /> [02:25:22] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -2<br /> [02:25:32] &lt;TheFerret&gt; .calc 1.414214 * 1.414214<br /> [02:25:32] &lt;X3&gt; �TheFerret�: 2<br /> [02:25:38] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = sqrt [ -2 ] (Square Root Both Sides)<br /> [02:25:39] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x=-2<br /> [02:25:46] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt [ x ] = 2i<br /> [02:25:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2*i = -2<br /> [02:26:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2i^2 = 2<br /> [02:26:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:26:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yet again 2=-2<br /> [02:26:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 3=-3<br /> [02:26:31] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; ...<br /> [02:26:34] &lt;TheFerret&gt; if you were to square both sides, the roots drop and all you are left with is x=2<br /> [02:26:38] &lt;TheFerret&gt; x=-2*<br /> [02:26:43] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:26:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; GOD DAMNIT<br /> [02:26:51] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yes<br /> [02:26:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; but im not simplifying yet<br /> [02:26:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:27:01] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:27:13] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i change to imaginary numbers because sqrt of a negative number<br /> [02:27:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; good ole messed up math system<br /> [02:27:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yup<br /> [02:27:57] &lt;TheFerret&gt; isnt i^2, `<br /> [02:27:59] &lt;TheFerret&gt; 1*<br /> [02:28:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; yes<br /> [02:28:05] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; thats the point<br /> [02:28:06] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:28:23] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so it would be 2(-1)^2=2<br /> [02:28:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no<br /> [02:28:42] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; it would be<br /> [02:28:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2(sqrt[-1])^2<br /> [02:28:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so it would be 2<br /> [02:29:06] &lt;TheFerret&gt; where did the root come from<br /> [02:29:08] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:29:14] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=1<br /> [02:29:31] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=-1***<br /> [02:29:40] &lt;TheFerret&gt; yeah<br /> [02:29:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm whats going on now im so confused<br /> [02:29:48] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:30:25] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so its 2(sqrt-1) * 2(sqrt-1) =2<br /> [02:30:48] &lt;TheFerret&gt; or 2i *2i =2<br /> [02:31:09] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i*i=1<br /> [02:31:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i dont even know anymore lol<br /> [02:31:16] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; !!!<br /> [02:31:19] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2=-1<br /> [02:31:20] &lt;TheFerret&gt; i^2=1<br /> [02:31:27] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:27] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; no its negative 1<br /> [02:31:29] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:30] &lt;TheFerret&gt; its one<br /> [02:31:32] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; WTF is going on<br /> [02:31:40] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[-1] = i<br /> [02:31:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; that doesn't work man<br /> [02:31:51] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:31:56] &lt;TheFerret&gt; ok, it is -1<br /> [02:31:57] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; fuck i told you 1=-1<br /> [02:32:00] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; 2=-2<br /> [02:32:09] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; jeez this is taking to long<br /> [02:32:10] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:12] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:22] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i better go to bed soon<br /> [02:32:23] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:24] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh<br /> [02:32:35] &lt;TheFerret&gt; how did i get i^2 to =1 then<br /> [02:32:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:32:41] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; exactly<br /> [02:32:42] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:33:23] &lt;TheFerret&gt; wait for that it would be (-1)*(-1)=1 which is true<br /> [02:33:36] &lt;TheFerret&gt; so i proved that you are right<br /> [02:33:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; hmmm now to just document it<br /> [02:33:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; and sell on ebay<br /> [02:33:55] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; loo<br /> [02:34:02] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; l<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; in Imaginary Numbers<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; so (Since squareroot cancels out)<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = -1<br /> [02:36:44] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x=-1<br /> [02:36:45] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = sqrt[-1]<br /> [02:36:50] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; sqrt[x] = i<br /> [02:36:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = i^2<br /> [02:36:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = sqrt[-1]^2<br /> [02:36:56] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = -1<br /> [02:36:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; you must covert to sqrt[-1] otherwise....<br /> [02:37:00] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = i^2<br /> [02:37:01] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1^2<br /> [02:37:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; x = 1<br /> [02:37:18] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; minute wtf<br /> [02:37:21] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i did something wrong?<br /> [02:37:31] &lt;TheFerret&gt; lol<br /> [02:37:52] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; i^2 = -1 not 1<br /> [02:37:53] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; thats why<br /> [02:37:54] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; :P<br /> [02:37:58] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; we fucked up really good<br /> [02:37:59] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:38:03] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; we r dumbass<br /> [02:38:04] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; lol<br /> [02:38:04] &lt;TheFerret&gt; heh, did we... lol<br /> [02:38:20] &lt;Ultrahex&gt; now i really gotta find it online&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> but we like it this way better...<br /> <br /> ( 21:42:28 ) ( @Ultrahex ) -1/1 = 1/-1<br /> ( 21:42:33 ) ( @Ultrahex ) sqrt(-1/1) = sqrt(1/-1)<br /> ( 21:42:37 ) ( @Ultrahex ) sqrt(-1) / sqrt(1) = sqrt(1) / sqrt(-1)<br /> ( 21:42:41 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i/1 = 1/i.<br /> ( 21:42:44 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i / 2 = 1 / (2i),<br /> ( 21:42:48 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i/2 + 3/(2i) = 1/(2i) + 3/(2i),<br /> ( 21:42:53 ) ( @Ultrahex ) i (i/2 + 3/(2i) ) = i ( 1/(2i) + 3/(2i) ),<br /> ( 21:42:56 ) ( @Ultrahex ) (i^2)/2 + (3i)/2i = i/(2i) + (3i)/(2i),<br /> ( 21:43:00 ) ( @Ultrahex ) (-1)/2 + 3/2 = 1/2 + 3/2,<br /> ( 21:43:03 ) ( @Ultrahex ) 1=2.</div>

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