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Martin

2006-07-20T04:31:26Z

Martin: /* Current Projects */

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in [[Japan]] (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in [[Japan]]. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Cool Stuff ==
If you are a [[Java]] programmer interested in making games, you should check out the [http://lwjgl.org/ Lightweight Java Game Library] which features Java bindings for OpenGL (for 3d graphics), DevIL (for input) and OpenAL (for audio).

[http://kevan.org/johari If you have a lot of friends.]

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting [first] 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

Martin

2006-05-01T02:11:14Z

Martin: /* Current Projects */

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in [[Japan]] (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in [[Japan]]. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Current Projects ==
* The Antithesis - A text based interactive fiction set in a cyberpunk world. Very early stages of development.

* BikiniArtist.com - A new website for the one and only [http://www.bikiniartist.com Bikini Artist]. About 80% complete, to be released very soon.

* Electric Lyre - A Ruby on Rails powered lyrical discussion site in the same vein as [http://www.songmeanings.net SongMeanings]. Concept stage of development

* Hazardous Areas Productions - A website for a company doing indie filming for bands and other things. Concept stage of development.

== Cool Stuff ==
If you are a [[Java]] programmer interested in making games, you should check out the [http://lwjgl.org/ Lightweight Java Game Library] which features Java bindings for OpenGL (for 3d graphics), DevIL (for input) and OpenAL (for audio).

[http://kevan.org/johari If you have a lot of friends.]

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting [first] 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

File:CanadianStickUp.jpg

2006-04-12T00:51:53Z

Martin: A Canadian Stickup. Stolen from some dude on Fark.

A Canadian Stickup. Stolen from some dude on Fark.

Talk:V3

2006-02-28T03:03:06Z

Martin: /* Would you like some cheese with that whine? */

== Would you like some cheese with that whine? ==
*[[rizzix]]: Oh my.. Please NOOOOO!!!
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Dont like [[Hello kitty]]?
*[[Cornflake]]: I like it! Though it's perhaps a little hard to read some of [[the]] text... needs more [[Pink]]
*[[Timmytheturtle]]: It looks good. [[The]] yellow text should be replaced by some [[Purple]]
*[[Cornflake]]: Huzzah for Dan! Now if only there was a real screenshot...

*[[Amailer]]: I have unofficial screenshots- don't think I should post it though maybe the senior staff....

Jeeze guys, learn how to use the Wiki

--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:43, 27 January 2006 (PST)

*[[rizzix]]: What? In two days V3 is going to be released? -- 11:50, 28 January 2006 (EST)

*[[Hacker Dan]]: I wish, but i have a midterm, clac assigment and resume to have done by monday. WTD gave me the idea to realses the base software and the slowly mod it live. I think i might do this.

*[[Amailer]]: When you do that, you can make it so that mods only can use it- since we have a lot of mods- we can be used as beta testers XD

*[[Gandalf]]: *looks threateningly at Amailer*

:A... eheh, of course you can always open it up to everyone :)

:--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 19:17, 29 January 2006 (PST)

::And here is how you add comments. This isn't IRC.

::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 19:50, 29 January 2006 (PST)

*[[Hacker Dan]]: Cleary no one reads what i right so u guys are going to be standing around for awhile wtaching v2 reload, lol
::So you have midterms, do we care...........? hehe JK. But um... yeah...live..update..release...thing you know...you can do that
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 19:20, 30 January 2006 (PST)

What the fuck? I changed 'V3 Hoxa Preview' to V3 Hoax Preview' and now the layout is screwed.
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 19:03, 27 February 2006 (PST)

== A tutorial on using Wiki comments ==
To post a reply on a wiki, one does not attempt to emulate an IRC conversation. Why? Because there are no timestamps on your comments, and it's difficult to tell who is talking to who.

So instead, you do it like this.

1. Write your comment.

2. Put one ':' in front of each line for each level of indentation you want to use.

3. Sign your comment with the same number of ':' followed by four ~'s.

4. Rinse, repeat. Wipe hands on pants.

--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:22, 30 January 2006 (PST)

V3

2006-02-28T03:01:54Z

Martin: /* V3 Hoax Preview */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
::Done but in a new usercp system. Same idea but better.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
::I think this is vissable to every one, tho it could be mods only.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
::Added but buggy for now. Also set up for testing with v2.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Added but was not so easy as you may think to do.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:40, 26 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::User will have a notepad where they can write anything they whont and store it in there usercp.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
:::::All good, now can we "publish" those "notes" as tutorials? Also, if a mod rejects a tutorial, make sure it goes back into his cp. =)
:::::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 17:07, 22 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::More work needs to be done in the filed of joining phpbb and ajax, i could see this in the futtuer for v4 since we whont to rewrite everything.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::::Yes Martin, they would be good. I guess you're flaunting them so madly in this request because it's essentially setting all the stealth banned user's posts to be invisible posts visible only to himself?
:::::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 16:33, 20 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Cervantes what i ment is that when i come arocess a post that i do not know what to do with i make a post in the staff forum (not move the post in question) or message other mods (threw, msn, irc or pm) for there option. I think that screct posts whould make things overcomplicated and screct bans seems kind of crazy to me. Maybe somthing making so they can not post in a speficed thread or fourm.
:::::--Hacker Dan 22:48, 20 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*<strike>make portal pages</strike>
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*<strike>fix order of smiles</strike>
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> <strike>Fix spell checker</strike>
*<strike>add user controal panale links</strike>
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> <strike>fix or remove flash bbcode</strike>
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*<strike>reorder moduals</strike>
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*<strike>make footer look nicer</strike>
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*<strike>bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)</strike>
*<strike>time last login in profile</strike>
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*<strike>play with subversion ideas</strike>
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*<strike>find copy right for compsci.ca</strike>
*<strike>make it so only user can make wiki edits</strike>
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.
*add portal info block
*add user dev page
*add more smiles
*check in to page refresh issues
*make/chage favicon and logo
*fix stats page

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Previews==
===V3 Hoax Preview===
The following was rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|V3 Hoax]]

===V3 Pre-Alpha Preview===
Here are some pics of what V3 could look like in Alpha verson, although everything is subject to change. Hopefully this will give people some new ideas to suggest and a better idea of what is going on:

[[Image:v3chat.jpg|left|thumb|150px|IRC Chat Room]]
[[Image:v3index.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index2.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3cal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Calander]]
[[Image:v3usercp.jpg|left|thumb|150px|User CP]]
[[Image:v3tanda.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Tutorials & Articles]]
[[Image:v3portal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Portal]]
[[Image:V3smallrez.JPG|left|thumb|150px|Small Rez Index]]

V3

2006-02-28T03:01:24Z

Martin: /* V3 Hoax Preview */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
::Done but in a new usercp system. Same idea but better.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
::I think this is vissable to every one, tho it could be mods only.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
::Added but buggy for now. Also set up for testing with v2.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Added but was not so easy as you may think to do.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:40, 26 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::User will have a notepad where they can write anything they whont and store it in there usercp.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
:::::All good, now can we "publish" those "notes" as tutorials? Also, if a mod rejects a tutorial, make sure it goes back into his cp. =)
:::::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 17:07, 22 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::More work needs to be done in the filed of joining phpbb and ajax, i could see this in the futtuer for v4 since we whont to rewrite everything.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::::Yes Martin, they would be good. I guess you're flaunting them so madly in this request because it's essentially setting all the stealth banned user's posts to be invisible posts visible only to himself?
:::::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 16:33, 20 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Cervantes what i ment is that when i come arocess a post that i do not know what to do with i make a post in the staff forum (not move the post in question) or message other mods (threw, msn, irc or pm) for there option. I think that screct posts whould make things overcomplicated and screct bans seems kind of crazy to me. Maybe somthing making so they can not post in a speficed thread or fourm.
:::::--Hacker Dan 22:48, 20 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*<strike>make portal pages</strike>
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*<strike>fix order of smiles</strike>
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> <strike>Fix spell checker</strike>
*<strike>add user controal panale links</strike>
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> <strike>fix or remove flash bbcode</strike>
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*<strike>reorder moduals</strike>
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*<strike>make footer look nicer</strike>
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*<strike>bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)</strike>
*<strike>time last login in profile</strike>
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*<strike>play with subversion ideas</strike>
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*<strike>find copy right for compsci.ca</strike>
*<strike>make it so only user can make wiki edits</strike>
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.
*add portal info block
*add user dev page
*add more smiles
*check in to page refresh issues
*make/chage favicon and logo
*fix stats page

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Previews==
===V3 Hoax Preview===
The following was rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|left|150px|V3 Hoax]]

===V3 Pre-Alpha Preview===
Here are some pics of what V3 could look like in Alpha verson, although everything is subject to change. Hopefully this will give people some new ideas to suggest and a better idea of what is going on:

[[Image:v3chat.jpg|left|thumb|150px|IRC Chat Room]]
[[Image:v3index.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index2.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3cal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Calander]]
[[Image:v3usercp.jpg|left|thumb|150px|User CP]]
[[Image:v3tanda.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Tutorials & Articles]]
[[Image:v3portal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Portal]]
[[Image:V3smallrez.JPG|left|thumb|150px|Small Rez Index]]

V3

2006-02-28T03:00:40Z

Martin: /* V3 Hoax Preview */

V3

2006-02-28T02:59:17Z

Martin: /* V3 Hoax Preview */

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==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
::Done but in a new usercp system. Same idea but better.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
::I think this is vissable to every one, tho it could be mods only.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
::Added but buggy for now. Also set up for testing with v2.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Added but was not so easy as you may think to do.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:40, 26 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::User will have a notepad where they can write anything they whont and store it in there usercp.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
:::::All good, now can we "publish" those "notes" as tutorials? Also, if a mod rejects a tutorial, make sure it goes back into his cp. =)
:::::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 17:07, 22 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::More work needs to be done in the filed of joining phpbb and ajax, i could see this in the futtuer for v4 since we whont to rewrite everything.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::::Yes Martin, they would be good. I guess you're flaunting them so madly in this request because it's essentially setting all the stealth banned user's posts to be invisible posts visible only to himself?
:::::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 16:33, 20 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Cervantes what i ment is that when i come arocess a post that i do not know what to do with i make a post in the staff forum (not move the post in question) or message other mods (threw, msn, irc or pm) for there option. I think that screct posts whould make things overcomplicated and screct bans seems kind of crazy to me. Maybe somthing making so they can not post in a speficed thread or fourm.
:::::--Hacker Dan 22:48, 20 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*<strike>make portal pages</strike>
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*<strike>fix order of smiles</strike>
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> <strike>Fix spell checker</strike>
*<strike>add user controal panale links</strike>
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> <strike>fix or remove flash bbcode</strike>
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*<strike>reorder moduals</strike>
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*<strike>make footer look nicer</strike>
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*<strike>bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)</strike>
*<strike>time last login in profile</strike>
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*<strike>play with subversion ideas</strike>
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*<strike>find copy right for compsci.ca</strike>
*<strike>make it so only user can make wiki edits</strike>
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.
*add portal info block
*add user dev page
*add more smiles
*check in to page refresh issues
*make/chage favicon and logo
*fix stats page

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Previews==
===V3 Hoax Preview===
The following was rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|V3 Hoax]]

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===V3 Pre-Alpha Preview===
Here are some pics of what V3 could look like in Alpha verson, although everything is subject to change. Hopefully this will give people some new ideas to suggest and a better idea of what is going on:

[[Image:v3chat.jpg|left|thumb|150px|IRC Chat Room]]
[[Image:v3index.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index2.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3cal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Calander]]
[[Image:v3usercp.jpg|left|thumb|150px|User CP]]
[[Image:v3tanda.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Tutorials & Articles]]
[[Image:v3portal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Portal]]
[[Image:V3smallrez.JPG|left|thumb|150px|Small Rez Index]]

V3

2006-02-28T02:58:07Z

Martin: /* V3 Hoxa Preview */

LanSchool

2006-02-24T02:13:55Z

Martin: /* What is LanSchool */ - De danified

[[Image:Lanschool.JPG|thumb]]
==What is LanSchool==
[[Image:Taskbar.JPG|thumb|What it looks like]]
LanSchool is trojan horse type program used by many school boards in Ontario to spy on there students as well as control one or all computers in a given lab. It is another exmaple of the school boards spending money of software that they could get for free, with the free verson even being of higher quality. LanSchool has many flaws and security holes in its design as will be mentioned below.
 
The LanSchool website: http://www.lanschool.com/
 

==The Story==
The Story as toald by [[Hacker Dan]]:
 
During grade 12 i chaged schools, the new school i whent to had alot better networks and computer labs witch was a good thing, or so i thought. After playing around for a bit i noticed a litte green icon in the tast bar that did not seem to do anyting. Looking feathure in to this i found out it was a progame named LanSchool (http://www.lanschool.com/). Now what is LanSchool you mayask, the names makes it sound insent enought, maybe somthing to help students? Well it may have started out that way but what it has become is basiclky a toringhorse progame for teachers to use to watch everything you are doing (incduing watching your screen) as well as giving them the ablity to control your computer or all computers in the lab at the same time. As ushealy the school borad decsied to spend money on somthing they could get for free and got a crapyer verson then what they could get for free.
 
So i started looking in to LanSchool more and found a demo verson on there site. This demo verson could not interact with real versons the school used and whould not allow studens to do any damge. 1st i looked in to how it was effecting the regiersy of the computers it was on, and found that every time the teacher application sent a comand to the student versons it recored what windows user sent the comand, the windows name of the computer they where on and the time in all regersitrys of every comp on the network. This ment that finding a full verson of the software althougth not hard whould end you up in alot of trouble unless you brought your own computer to school and even then still could.
 
So i begain to look at the packets it was send and to my shock they where UDP and not TCP and they had no ecription or coding at all to them. This means that it is exteramly easy to spoof the packets. So i quiclky wrote up a simple java progame to test out my theroy. Affter some time and exmermentation i decoded what most of the packets ment and was able to control the demo verson of LanSchool. Affter looking more at the packets i noticed that the difrces between the demo verson and the real verson is that the demo verso uses only one chanale witchis never used by the real verson. So it was simple a madder of chaing the chanel byte to a real chanle in the packet to get it to work with most if not all versons of LanSchool. Also this allowed me to make the regeisty logs say what ever i whonted, incuding blaming other stutdents for the hack.
 
Now being the nice guy that i am i e-maied my findings to LanSchool and sugested several ways to fix this expolite. There repsoses was basiclky saying that they whould rather send time and effort enforcing the rules of the school and the law then fixing there progame. And made threats that legal aucation as well as sudesnions could take place if i where to use this progame. So next i whent to my school and aucatly demstorated (with there permision) the expoite and how unscure it was. Again nothing happend with my efforts so amoth latter i published how the packet worked on compsci.ca.
 
It is now almost 2 years latter and i have rewriten my hack so any one even script kiddys can use it. With a nice gui and everything. My hope by doing this is to teach peoleop why progaming like LanSchool did is bad security wise and to encorge the school borad to buy (if they most) better software from comapnys that know what they are doing and are willing to chage with the times. BTW LanSchools website still claims that there are no know bugs with LanSchool.
 
==The Packet==
This is what the packet looks like:
 
'''Mode | Version | Channel [to blocks] |00 or DF |DA | D1| ___data here__|__log info__|'''
 
Mode is basickly the comand you are send so far i have found alot of them and here are some expamles:
 
*00 - start boradcast of screens
*04 - restore computer screens
*07 - blaken all screens
*08 - unload lanschool or just frezz it up good
 
The verson corposneds to what verson of lanschool you are runing versons 5.x seem to like 01 and 02 seems to be for 6.x
 
The channel area is prity simple, it is the channel number. The demo verson uses channel FF in hex or 255 in dec.
 
The next 3 bytes are kind of hard to figgure out but seem to allways be the same in the give verson of lanschool. For 5.x and the low 6.xs the 1st byte here should be 00 for 6.5 and some others it should be DF in hex. The other 2 seem to allways be the same.
 
The data area is data for that comand, some comands do not need this like blacken all screens.
 
The log area is where it puts the name of your computer and then your username for loging. This area also has alot of useless 00 bytes that just take up space.
 
==Application of the packet==
The falowing is a very simple java application that will take adavagte of the above infomration to black out screens for the demo verson of 6.5 of lanschool only on the computer you are using. To send to all computers in a network you could use the ip 255.255.255.255
 
<code>
public class LanHack
{
public static void main(String args[])
{
try
{
InetAddress ipaddr=InetAddress.getByName("120.0.0.1");
DatagramSocket mysocket=new DatagramSocket();
byte sendbuf2[] = {(byte)0x07,(byte)0x02,(byte)0xff,(byte)0x3f,(byte)0xda, (byte)0xd1};
DatagramPacket sendPacket2 = new DatagramPacket( sendbuf2, sendbuf2.length, ipaddr, 796);
mysocket.send(sendPacket2);
}catch(Exception e){}
}
}</code>
 
Note that for lesser verson of lanschool you whould have to chage the 0x3f to 0x00 and posibley 0x02 to 0x01 or another number. Aslo this is set to the demo chan 0xff and if u whonted to send to a real verson you whould have to set it to 0xChanNumberInHex.
 

==LanSchooled==
[[Image:Lanschooled.JPG|thumb|300px|LanSchooled Screen Shot]]
Now for what i did with all this knogagel to make a point and click lanschool hack that can help you understand how the packets work. Rember that this is only for educational use and should not be used for evil purposes and i take no respoblity for what you do with it. With that side, i only tested it on the demo verson but i whould like to hear from peoleop if they got it to work on other versons.
 
===How to use===
The top frame shows the packet that will be sent, you can use the easy set up buttions below it to set the packet to do what you whont. The times bar will let you say how many times you whont to send out the packet.
 
Seting the channel to "ALL" will send to all posiable lanschool channels incuding the demo one. Seting the verson to "9" will send a verson 2 but with 0x00 rather then 0xdf. Seting to "2" will send verson 2 but with 0xdf. All other verson numbers send there verson and 0x00.
 
The log info lets you set what to set the name and comp name of in the regersity logs of the computers effected. I whould storgy remocmend peoleop not expoit this to get peoleop in thoruble since that is just evil.
 
You most hit send to aucatly send the packet. The easy set up buttions just configer the packet you are going to send.
 
===Where to get===
*Latest Versons of files: http://compsci.ca/dan/LanSchooled/
*Sorce Code: http://compsci.ca/dan/LanSchooled/LanSchooled.java
*Class File: http://compsci.ca/dan/LanSchooled/LanSchooled.class
*Excutbale Jar: http://compsci.ca/dan/LanSchooled/LanSchooled.jar
*EXE Verson: http://compsci.ca/dan/LanSchooled/LanSchooled.exe

Iker

2006-02-23T00:02:19Z

Martin: /* Likes */

== Who is Iker? ==

Iker is a respectable user who clearly only uses turing, and has just began to touch on Ruby, learnt basic Java. He has created a multitude of useless programs, mostly games, and a few useful ones that he has kept for himself.

== Academics ==

Iker is currently in grade 11 attending [[St. Mary's College Highschool]] in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. He is highly regarded by all of his computer teachers, and applies about 75% of his knowledge to everything else he does.

== Music ==
Iker lives for the metal music, and favours the heavier stuff. Megadeth, Slayer, MD.45, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyed, Rush, and a few other bands.

== Likes & Dislikes ==

=== Likes ===
<ul>
<li>[[Girls]]</li>
<li>[[Computers]]</li>
<li>[[Electronics]]</li>
<li>[[Metal Music]]</li>
<li>[[Math]], [[Computer sciences]], [[Physics]]</li>
<li>[[Firefox]]</li>
<li>[[Parties]]</li>
<li>[[Brokeback Mountain]]</li>
<li>[[Driving]]</li>
<li>Occasional random discussion about nothing</li>
<li>[[Cowbell]]s</li>
</ul>

=== Dislikes ===

<ul>
<li>[[Number systems]] such as Hex and Octo</li>
<li>[[Turing]], even thought its the only language he thourouly knows</li>
<li>[[Martin]]</li> (this does not need to be edited out, just check the discussion and you'll understand why)
<li>The fact that he can't think of any other dislikes at the momment</li>
</ul>

Talk:Coutsos

2006-02-23T00:01:22Z

Martin:

Umm, dude. I'm going to assume that you are Stokkm. Why the delete from VMSS?
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:38, 20 February 2006 (PST)

:Oh, you know me... stuff...

:Oh, you know me... stuff... (Stukkm... dammit, I figured it would automatically add my name after the comment)

::No no, you have to add a four ~'s. Like ~ ~ ~ ~ only without the spaces. And :'s to do indentation.
::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 22 February 2006 (PST)

V3

2006-02-22T00:38:43Z

Martin: More de-Danification. Sweet job on the site, by the way.

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
::Done but in a new usercp system. Same idea but better.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
::I think this is vissable to every one, tho it could be mods only.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
::Added but buggy for now. Also set up for testing with v2.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::User will have a notepad where they can write anything they whont and store it in there usercp.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::More work needs to be done in the filed of joining phpbb and ajax, i could see this in the futtuer for v4 since we whont to rewrite everything.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::::Yes Martin, they would be good. I guess you're flaunting them so madly in this request because it's essentially setting all the stealth banned user's posts to be invisible posts visible only to himself?
:::::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 16:33, 20 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Cervantes what i ment is that when i come arocess a post that i do not know what to do with i make a post in the staff forum (not move the post in question) or message other mods (threw, msn, irc or pm) for there option. I think that screct posts whould make things overcomplicated and screct bans seems kind of crazy to me. Maybe somthing making so they can not post in a speficed thread or fourm.
:::::--Hacker Dan 22:48, 20 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*<strike>make portal pages</strike>
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*<strike>fix order of smiles</strike>
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> <strike>Fix spell checker</strike>
*<strike>add user controal panale links</strike>
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> <strike>fix or remove flash bbcode</strike>
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*<strike>reorder moduals</strike>
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*<strike>make footer look nicer</strike>
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*<strike>bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)</strike>
*<strike>time last login in profile</strike>
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*<strike>play with subversion ideas</strike>
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*<strike>find copy right for compsci.ca</strike>
*<strike>make it so only user can make wiki edits</strike>
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.
*add portal info block
*add user dev page
*add more smiles
*check in to page refresh issues
*make/chage favicon and logo
*fix stats page

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Previews==
===V3 Hoxa Preview===
The following was rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|V3 Hoxa]]

===V3 Pre-Alpha Preview===
Here are some pics of what V3 could look like in Alpha verson, although everything is subject to change. Hopefully this will give people some new ideas to suggest and a better idea of what is going on:

[[Image:v3chat.jpg|left|thumb|150px|IRC Chat Room]]
[[Image:v3index.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index2.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3index3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Forum Index]]
[[Image:v3cal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Calander]]
[[Image:v3usercp.jpg|left|thumb|150px|User CP]]
[[Image:v3tanda.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Tutorials & Articles]]
[[Image:v3portal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Portal]]

V3

2006-02-22T00:37:34Z

Martin: De-Danified the V3 pre-alpha bit. :P

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
::Done but in a new usercp system. Same idea but better.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
::I think this is vissable to every one, tho it could be mods only.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
::Added but buggy for now. Also set up for testing with v2.
::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::User will have a notepad where they can write anything they whont and store it in there usercp.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::More work needs to be done in the filed of joining phpbb and ajax, i could see this in the futtuer for v4 since we whont to rewrite everything.
::::--Hacker Dan 00:09, 21 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::::Yes Martin, they would be good. I guess you're flaunting them so madly in this request because it's essentially setting all the stealth banned user's posts to be invisible posts visible only to himself?
:::::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 16:33, 20 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Cervantes what i ment is that when i come arocess a post that i do not know what to do with i make a post in the staff forum (not move the post in question) or message other mods (threw, msn, irc or pm) for there option. I think that screct posts whould make things overcomplicated and screct bans seems kind of crazy to me. Maybe somthing making so they can not post in a speficed thread or fourm.
:::::--Hacker Dan 22:48, 20 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*<strike>make portal pages</strike>
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*<strike>fix order of smiles</strike>
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> <strike>Fix spell checker</strike>
*<strike>add user controal panale links</strike>
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> <strike>fix or remove flash bbcode</strike>
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*<strike>reorder moduals</strike>
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*<strike>make footer look nicer</strike>
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*<strike>bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)</strike>
*<strike>time last login in profile</strike>
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*<strike>play with subversion ideas</strike>
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*<strike>find copy right for compsci.ca</strike>
*<strike>make it so only user can make wiki edits</strike>
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.
*add portal info block
*add user dev page
*add more smiles
*check in to page refresh issues
*make/chage favicon and logo
*fix stats page

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Previews==
===V3 Hoxa Preview===
The following was rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|V3 Hoxa]]

===V3 Pre-Alpha Preview===
Here are some pics of what V3 could look like in Alpha verson, although everything is subject to change. Hopefully this will give people some new ideas to suggest and a better idea of what is going on:

[[Image:v3chat.jpg|left|thumb|150px|IRC Chat Room]]
[[Image:v3index.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Fourm Index]]
[[Image:v3index2.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Fourm Index]]
[[Image:v3index3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Fourm Index]]
[[Image:v3cal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Calander]]
[[Image:v3usercp.jpg|left|thumb|150px|User CP]]
[[Image:v3tanda.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Tutorials & Articles]]
[[Image:v3portal.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Portal]]

Talk:Math

2006-02-21T08:17:06Z

Martin:

For part 2 ... exponant laws don't work like that when the base is negative. But the 0.999... = 1 bit is right :)
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:17, 21 February 2006 (PST)

Talk:Coutsos

2006-02-21T06:38:22Z

Martin:

Umm, dude. I'm going to assume that you are Stokkm. Why the delete from VMSS?
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:38, 20 February 2006 (PST)

V3

2006-02-20T02:23:33Z

Martin: /* Requested */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Rizzix/Hacker Dan, there are some topics that walk the edge between "leave them alone" and "send to evidence folder". Those topics where the poster is an ass and part of you wants to leave him out to dry, and the other part of you feels guilty for doing so. Those topics where the poster is still receiving help, but users are spamming the topic like there's no tommorow. What do you do? You could move it to the evidence folder for staff discussion, then move it back if that's the decision, but in the meantime, what has the poster gone and done? Posted another topic, of course! Alternatively, we could make a thread ourselves in the evidence folder to discuss, leaving it where it is for the time being. But isn't that too much of a hassel? V3 isn't about absolute necessity, it's about filling its users with trinkets and joys from across the world! (wide web).
:::::--[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]] 17:55, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::::And... timed stealth bans! The user doesn't even know that they were banned - it'd be great.
::::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:23, 19 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*<strike>add shop for item pool</strike>
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*make portal pages
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*fix order of smiles
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> Fix spell checker
*add user controal panale links
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> fix or remove flash bbcode
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*reorder moduals
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*make footer look nicer
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)
*time last login in profile
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*play with subversion ideas
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*find copy right for compsci.ca
*make it so only user can make wiki edits
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users
*fix up irc look.

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Preview==
The following is rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|thumb|500px|left|V3?]]

V3

2006-02-20T01:11:27Z

Martin: /* Requested */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them. Actually, having a killfile would be cool.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*add shop for item pool
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*make portal pages
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*fix order of smiles
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> Fix spell checker
*add user controal panale links
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> fix or remove flash bbcode
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*reorder moduals
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*make footer look nicer
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)
*time last login in profile
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*play with subversion ideas
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*find copy right for compsci.ca
*make it so only user can make wiki edits
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Preview==
The following is rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|thumb|500px|left|V3?]]

V3

2006-02-20T01:09:53Z

Martin: /* Requested */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[User:Cervantes|Cervantes]]: Invisible posts. Well, not completely invisible. Posts that only moderators can see. Perhaps only moderators can make them, or perhaps it would be beneficial to allow all users to make them. This would sort of act like flagging a topic, as Martin was suggesting, except that it allows for a discussion of what to be done with a topic. You know, those topics that are in between the "delete/move to hiding place" and "leave alone", those topics that you just don't quite know what to do with. Invisible posts may be grouped together at the end of the regular user discussion, interspersed within the discussion, or occupy an invisible thread. Threads with invisible posts should be coloured differently or some such to easily distinguish them from the rest of the threads.
::Well currently we just move it to the evidence folder =/
::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 14:58, 19 February 2006 (PST)
:::I thought that was what the staff forums where for. If there is a questional tpoic the idea is to post in the staff forum about it.
:::--Hacker Dan 16:29, 19 February 2006 (PST)
::::I'm telling you guys, stealth bans are where it's at. If a stealth banned user makes a post, the post gets entered into the database but is marked as stealth banned. Users only see posts that aren't stealth banned (although stealth banned users can see their own posts as well). It'd be awesome. All the stupid people will go nuts trying to figure out why everyone's ignoring them.
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:09, 19 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*add shop for item pool
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*make portal pages
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*fix order of smiles
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> Fix spell checker
*add user controal panale links
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> fix or remove flash bbcode
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*reorder moduals
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*make footer look nicer
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)
*time last login in profile
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*play with subversion ideas
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*find copy right for compsci.ca
*make it so only user can make wiki edits
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]
*[[Jamonathin]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Preview==
The following is rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|thumb|500px|left|V3?]]

Talk:Iker

2006-02-20T01:02:11Z

Martin: Revert. Iker, don't change comments on talk pages.

If you do not like homosexuals and whont to be predusits that is up to you but it has no place on CompSci.ca or any of it's subsites. Please leave such remarks off of the wiki.
:--Hacker Dan 17:48, 13 February 2006 (PST)

:Iker has seen Brokeback Mountain ... twice.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 19:41, 15 February 2006 (PST)

V3

2006-02-17T02:26:19Z

Martin: /* Rejected */

This page was intentionally left blank, but was added to anyway.

==V3 ETA==
'''Alpha Version''': Before Summer, Feb. 30th (estimate only)

'''Beta Version''': Before next school year, April 30th (estimate only)

'''Public Version''': Unknown

==User Requests==
Add modifications and other things that you would like to see in V3:

===Added===
*[[Amailer]]: Merge posts commands for mods
*[[Amailer]]: Tutorial rating system
*[[Cervantes]]: Quick Reply box
*[[Martin]]: Add an RSS feed option for various forums. (Can you say awesome?) Yes '''''ADDED''''' but buggy
*[[Martin]]: Timed bans. Like, so I can ban someone for three days and when they login it'd say You have been banned (by [[Martin]]) for whatever reason. There is <x> much time remaining. Then I wouldn't have to feel so guilty.
*[[Martin]]: Get rid of the stupid 'You have a message!' sound that plays and makes the page layout go nuts. '''''ADDED in v2 as well'''''
*[[Rizzix]]: Allow for moderator feedback: aka tutorial rejection. This will help improve the quality of tutorials available on compsci.
*[[Amailer]]: (Maybe) create a system similar to [http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Main_Page Gallery2] '''''A image system like it has be added but not that.'''''
*[[Martin]]: Buddy list to make finding people easier when you want to PM them.

===In Development===
*[[Hacker Dan]]: Automated security systems
*[[Martin]]: Fix firefox glow '''''May not be possible'''''
:Then can we just get rid of it, or at least disable the colours for the name that are impossible/difficult to see on real web browsers (such as white)?
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Tony]]: wiki like bbcode linking
*[[Cervantes]]: Link to Bit Log in profiles (only visible to that user, such as Attachment Control Panel, or mods)
*[[Cornflake]]: Tutorial link to wiki [[Tutorials]] page
*[[Gandalf]]: Time of last log in, on the profile page.
*[[Hikaru79]]: Not having edits, count towards your post/minute timer (so you can edit posts right after you made them if you noticed a problem).
*[[Martin]]: Registration that registers you both on the wiki and compsci.ca with the same account.
*[[rizzix]]: List users by rank, where the rank is the bits/posts ratio.
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user projects: Homepage, CVS, Bugtracker, Development timeline graphs, etc. '''''Partly Added, the CVS part, partly'''''
:Subversion, not CVS... please.
:--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 22:47, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::Acuatly it is subversion not CVS that i added, my bad =p
::--[[User:65.39.11.90|65.39.11.90]] 11:08, 7 February 2006 (PST)

===Considering===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=282881 Google Integrated Search] so that it will take alot less time to search and you'll be able to get better results.
:: I like it in theory but it could cause the bot problems we had b4 to come back. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Commenting for changing bits
:: A bits log for sure but i don't know about making a comeeting section for every bits chage, i think that is more for what PMing is for. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Support for user project bounties.
*[[rizzix]]: Improved award system. Make the awards a little more visible, i.e. not hidden deep within the user's profile.
:It would be cool if at the top right of your post (to the left of the edit button) there was a list of clickable 16x16 icons representing the awards. Each award could have a description attached to it, like - 'awarded to so and so for winning this contest on this day.' Probably kind of time consuming to add though.
:[[User:Martin|Martin]] 00:31, 1 February 2006 (PST)
::Cool maybe but it whould make the posts to corwed with infromation and start looking bad, esptaly if some users had many awards
::--[[User:Hacker Dan|24.109.165.77]] 10:19, 4 February 2006 (PST)
:::In that case, it could be the most recent five awards or whaever.
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 02:50, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::::In the profile maybe, but right on the persons posts seems a bit much. Tho i could posbliy make a system for the user to put them in there sig. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::::Instead, maybe just a single trophy button with a number beside it showing the number of trophies that the user has. Like: ''Y(3)'' (with the Y being a picture of a trophy or something)
:::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:49, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: In-place post editing. That is, display the whole page as it would normally show up when viewing posts, but make the post marked for editing, editable. ( hint: AJAX )
::AJAX is gr8 and all but can some times overly complicate things. [[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:38, 5 February 2006 (PST)
::: It makes things simpler on the user end. (c'mon stop complaining :p) Of course, no rush here, you can safely move it to V4 :)
::: --[[rizzix]] 19:14, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: A WYSIWYG editor, for those who don't like using bbcode or wiki
*[[rizzix]]: Improved tutorial writing system: provides the ability to work on tutorials in offline mode, (a publishing system). The ability take a tutorial offline, edit it, improve it, and re-publish it. Force all tutorials to be approved by ''any'' moderator before it is displayed online. '''''Not going to happen unless some one whonts to write the offline software and backend script to handel post uploads'''''
::That is not what I meant. By offline I mean you take it off display, and put it into a Tutorial box or something. It is basically a publishing system. Do reconsider.
::--[[rizzix]] 11:39, 5 February 2006 (PST)
:::I am considering it, tho it may make things more complicated. --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 14:32, 5 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Gandalf]]: An easy way of quoting multiple people so that it shows their name above the quote (ie. one solution would be the quote button, except make it show in the "Topic Review" below the "Post a Reply" box).
*[[Martin]]: Code snippits section where users can submit complete code designed to be used with other people's applications (thus making it easy for people looking for a certain feature to find it).
*[[Cornflake]]: Fix the post boxes to fill the entire screen width wise. It's not that hard, and it makes things so much nicer.
::This may not be posiable in V3 due to a difrent layout for post boxes, i will look in to it tho.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Cervantes]]: Change the character limit in signatures. From what I can tell, it's currently a limit before BBCode tags are applied. Having lots of colour and links may make a single sentance too long. Also, no images in sigs.
::This may be hard to conrtol BBCode/HTML wise, and serveral users incuding my self use images in there sigs in ways that are not bothersoom to most users.
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Rejected===
*[[Amailer]]: [http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=289721 Democracy MOD 0.1.4 (reputation + warnings + reports)] '''''Difrent mod being used for same thing'''''
*[[Martin]]: Hookers. '''''Added....i mean WTF???'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Allow for wiki sytle editing, as an alternative to bbcode. '''''I don't know about that one....'''''
*[[rizzix]]: Give the tutorial's author bits/month for ''x'' number of years, based on the rating his tutorial has received (since we already have the rating system implemented). This will help improve the number of quality articles we have here on compsci, and will truly reflect the rank of the user.
::I am planing on having a bits for rating system but it will be based on some difrent math
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Amailer]]: Since you guys are removing the edit button because you don't know what the origional content was, how about making a system, similar to wikies which has the edit history? No need for it to be able to un-do it all, but yeah, you would be able to check what has been edited. (you can just put the diffrent versions insted of the + and - thigns)
::We are not removing the edit buttion
::[[Hacker Dan]]--[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: A way for normal users to flag a topic that is spam/abusive/whatever. Just a flag this topic button, and then the administrators could get a list of all flagged topics. Administrators could then deal with the topic and remove the flag afterwards. Also, hookers.
::All ready added......other then the hookers....
::[[Hacker Dan]] --Hacker Dan 08:41, 11 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: We need more cowbell
::We need more what now? [http://www.fridayfishwrap.com/wp/wp-content/images/cowbell.jpg Cowbell?]
::[[Hacker Dan]] --[[User:24.109.165.77|24.109.165.77]] 18:12, 8 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Iker]]: An "auto lock" on all topics older then x days. This way, we don't have to worry about new people not reading the rules, and none of us have to bitch at them for doing it :)
::You know, um I thought the reason why forums keept the old posts was because people can come back to them; why do we flame people when they post in old topics? Unless the topic has already been solved (or disucssion was over). Suppose it was a help topic, and a person just signed up and knew the answer (the topic didn't get a proper answer when it was made)- so isn't the user allowed to post in it?
::--[[User:Amailer|Amailer]] 14:21, 11 February 2006 (PST)
:::This option will be aviable to the staff for some forums but i do not plan on excuiting it just yet.
:::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
::::Amailer - the problem is that people aren't adding to the discussion. Every post in an old topic I've seen has been something like "Hey, nice work!"
::::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 18:26, 16 February 2006 (PST)

===Requested===

*[[Martin]]: When editing posts, default to silent edit when it's someone else's post, but to a normal (tagged) edit when editing your own posts.
::I thought it all ready worked like this, lol. I will look in to it....
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[Martin]]: Probably the best idea ever - switch the post boxes to use a fixed width font. Writing code in them as it stands is very difficult.
::How whould a fixed width make writing code easyer? Or do u mean a way to allow for tabing and other formating like in most editors?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Because it would make spaces lines line up properly, so if you need to type a five line code snippit you don't have to worry about your comments not being aligned and such. Maybe an option in the user's profile to choose the editing font?
:::--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 16:01, 16 February 2006 (PST)
*[[rizzix]]: Link or redirect wiki discussions to the respective topic in a Wiki forum in phpbb.
::I am not shure how you mean for this to be done, could you give an example of some kind?
::--Hacker Dan 13:14, 16 February 2006 (PST)
:::Yea. I'll give you two ideas (but you can definitely improve on them), choose either one:
:::1) If the discussions tab is clicked the first time, then redirect the user to a page that asks him if he wants to create a new discussion in the phpbb section. If he accepts then create a new topic (e.g. for our V3 page it could be "V3 Talk") in a "Wiki" forum. Yea you would need to create a whole new forum for Wiki discussions. The next time the discussions tab is clicked it automatically redirects to the respective topic ("V3 Talk") in the respective forum ("Wiki").
:::2) Similar to the first one, where you prompt the user if he/she wants to create a new discussion if it's clicked for the first time etc, but now print out a small non-editable-blurb under the discussions tab that show the last 10 posts from the respective Topic ("V3 Talk") in the "Wiki" forum. Under that blurb have a quick reply box. =)
:::--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 16:59, 16 February 2006 (PST)

==Things left to do for V3==
Not usefull to any one but Hacker Dan, but just easy to keep track of this way for him:

*<strike>Edit private message welcome</strike>
*<strike>Errors on forum (posting)</strike>
*<strike>remove aditional info on fourm names (moderator info)</strike>
*<strike>posbly remove style drop down</strike>
*reoreder nav links
*<strike>remove "switch to invisible"</strike>
*<strike>remove download modual</strike>
*add shop for item pool
*<strike>chage name of knowledge base link</strike>
*<strike>chage pic of knowledge base</strike> '''''Thanks to amailer'''''
*<strike>fix knowledge base approval system</strike>
*<strike>remove lexicon</strike>
*make portal pages
*<strike>add in wiki and blog nav links</strike>
*<strike>try to fix time zones</strike>
*fix order of smiles
*<strike>check spell checker</strike> Fix spell checker
*add user controal panale links
*<strike>edit user aggremnt</strike> Make new rules page
*<strike>chage post icon setings</strike>
*<strike>fix flash bbcode and others</strike> fix or remove flash bbcode
*<strike>set up anwsered/unawsered system</strike>
*<strike>edit footer</strike> <strike>check out backend.php</strike>
*edit faq
*<strike>add event types</strike>
*<strike>fix link to use modual</strike>
*<strike>fix contact us deparments</strike>
*reorder moduals
*add knowledge base rankings
*deal with user requests
*<strike>chage KB tag</strike>
*<strike>fix IE errors/warnings</strike>
*make footer look nicer
*<strike>add wiki bbcode</strike>
*<strike>fix pm notifaction</strike>
*add in compsci.ca bits mod
*add in compsci.ca bits log mod
*add in compsci.ca shop effect sell mod
*get some sleep
*work on KB combaity by making notice go to old tutoral forms
*<strike>Play with RSS Feed</strike> Add info to tell users how to use RSS
*Test timed bans
*<strike>fix up pm message</strike>
*KB noftication on rejection and reason
*Test image system
*<strike>Look in to and add secuirty systems</strike>
*disable glow for non-IE
*bits log link in profile (only visable to staff + user)
*time last login in profile
*Link to wiki tutoral page
*look in to edits spam timer
*<strike>dual registeration</strike>
*add registeration feilds
*more user listing options in member list
*play with subversion ideas
*look in to google integrated search
*look in to user project bounties system
*look in to increasing visiblity of user awards
*<strike>look in to phpbb AJAX (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=348995)</strike> '''''Pushed to V4'''''
*better error pages
*find copy right for compsci.ca
*make it so only user can make wiki edits
*add mods
*look in to blog software and intergation with phpbb
*edit help page for irc
*make watermark for irc
*make censor optional for users

==Alpha Verson==
===Alpha Testers===
Aplha users are limited to staff only. If you are staff list your name below to sign up for the v3 alpha test.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Tony]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Amailer]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the browser you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

===Comments and Suggestions===

==Beta Version==
===Beta Testers===
Any users in good standing may sign up for the beta test. The beta test will begin after all the bugs and chages recommended in the alpha test are made/done. Not all users signed up will get to be a beta tester and order of signing up may or may not matter.

*[[Hacker Dan]]
*[[Cornflake]]
*[[El Comandante]]
*rdrake/cartoon_shark
*[[Pwned]]
*[[Martin]]!
*[[Cervantes]]
*[[Gandalf]]
*[[rizzix]]
*[[Hikaru79]]
*[[Iker]]

===Bug Report===
Please list your name, the brower you are using, the time and date, the error, the url, what you were doing and the bug below:

==V3 Preview==
The following is rumored to be a pic of [[the]] V3 system:
[[Image:compsci_v3.jpg|thumb|500px|left|V3?]]

Martin

2006-02-17T00:24:15Z

Martin:

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in [[Japan]] (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in [[Japan]]. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Current Projects ==
At the moment, Martin is developing a [[MUD]] called [http://antithesis.nxor.org/ The Antithesis]. It is in the very early stages of development.

== Cool Stuff ==
If you are a [[Java]] programmer interested in making games, you should check out the [http://lwjgl.org/ Lightweight Java Game Library] which features Java bindings for OpenGL (for 3d graphics), DevIL (for input) and OpenAL (for audio).

[http://kevan.org/johari If you have a lot of friends.]

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting [first] 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

V3

2006-02-17T00:01:02Z

Martin: /* Requested */

Java

2006-02-16T06:38:26Z

Martin: Fuck it.

Java is a programming language designed for boring people who aren't smart enough to handle [[C]].

Java

2006-02-16T06:37:59Z

Martin:

Java is a programming language designed for boring people who aren't smart enough to handle [[C]] or [[C++|Cpp]].

Java

2006-02-16T06:37:30Z

Martin:

Java is a programming language designed for boring people who aren't smart enough to handle [[C]] or [[C++]].

Caffeine

2006-02-16T06:36:06Z

Martin:

Caffeine, like [[Food]], is a key resource that programmers turn into code. There is a forumla for determining how much food and how much caffeine it takes for each line of code, but that forumla has yet to be perfected.

A chart of the happiness content of various drinks can be found here.[http://wilstar.com/caffeine.htm]

''See also: [[Food]], [[Java]], [[Coke]], [[Pepsi]], [[Sobe]]''

Food

2006-02-16T06:35:29Z

Martin: This was supposed to go in caffeine

Food

2006-02-16T06:30:23Z

Martin:

Food, like [[Caffeine]], is a key resource that programmers turn into code. There is a forumla for determining how much food and how much caffeine it takes for each line of code, but that forumla has yet to be perfected.

A chart of the happiness content of various drinks can be found here.[http://wilstar.com/caffeine.htm]

Coke

2006-02-16T06:25:35Z

Martin: /* Users that like Coke more then Pepsi */

'''Coke''':

1. Is believed by some to be better than [[Pepsi]]

2. A raw materal to be converted in to code

3. "I call it black gold" -- [[Hacker Dan]]

4. A pop that has an above average level of [[Caffeine]].

5.A brown magical potion of Repel Somn

== Users that like Coke more then Pepsi ==
*[[Hacker Dan]] - not as much as [[Sobe]] though
*[[Boo-chan]] -depending on the day
*[[Cornflake]] - though he prefers caffeine free drinks
:*[[Martin]] - Mountain Dew Energy is caffeine free, I swear.
*[[Paul]] - Pepsi tastes like toasted zerglings. Fresca FTW.

Anime

2006-02-16T06:21:33Z

Martin:

Japanese cartoons, or ''anime'' to the elite is a style of animation which involves as little animation as possible. Instead, the animator uses fancy CGI techniques such as ''motion lines'' and the all famous panning camera to capture the feeling of nautiousness and laziness.

Japanese cartoon characters features are often very exaggerated, as the style originally took inspiration from Disney's famous characters such as Betty Boop and Mickey Mouse.

Talk:Iker

2006-02-16T03:41:48Z

Martin:

Talk:Iker

2006-02-16T03:41:30Z

Martin:

Talk:BBCode

2006-02-15T23:34:46Z

Martin:

[[Cervantes]]: That took a long time. :( Does anyone know how to insert colour into a wiki page? Also, it might be good to convert this to a sort of table form. The wiki code for a big table can be seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page here].

What is the point of the [username] tag??
--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 15:16, 15 February 2006 (PST)

:The theme on CompSci.ca seems to be to misuse the Wiki in every way possible. Cervantes - read [[talk:V3]]!--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 15:34, 15 February 2006 (PST)

Talk:BBCode

2006-02-15T23:34:29Z

Martin:

[[Cervantes]]: That took a long time. :( Does anyone know how to insert colour into a wiki page? Also, it might be good to convert this to a sort of table form. The wiki code for a big table can be seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page here].

What is the point of the [username] tag??
--[[User:Rizzix|rizzix]] 15:16, 15 February 2006 (PST)

:The theme on CompSci.ca seems to be to misuse the Wiki in every way possible. Cervantes - read [[talk:V3]]!
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 15:34, 15 February 2006 (PST)

V3

2006-02-15T04:22:51Z

Martin: /* Requested */

Talk:Hacker Dan

2006-02-15T04:19:12Z

Martin: Accusition of Dan being a thief.

Thief! I'm the only one who's allowed to know how to use the wiki!
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 20:19, 14 February 2006 (PST)

User:Martin

2006-02-14T13:33:18Z

Martin:

#REDIRECT [[Martin]]

Martin

2006-02-14T06:09:49Z

Martin: /* Quotes */

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in [[Japan]] (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in [[Japan]]. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Current Projects ==
At the moment, Martin is developing a [[MUD]] called [http://antithesis.nxor.org/ The Antithesis]. It is in the very early stages of development.

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting [first] 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

Japan

2006-02-14T02:22:51Z

Martin:

== Aboot Japan ==

Japan is a strange country located a little bit to the left of [[Canada]] and the United States. It is the home of great food, robots and a religious boycott of insulation for houses.

The Japanese currency is the yen, which is nice to get paid in because your monthly paycheck will be in hundreds of thousands of yen. Unfortunately, common items also cost thousands of yen, so there is no actual profit to be made. However, if one is looking to become a millionare, Japan is a good place to start (although not as good as post World War 1 Germany).

Martin

2006-02-14T02:17:34Z

Martin: /* Toys */

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in Japan (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in [[Japan]]. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Current Projects ==
At the moment, Martin is developing a [[MUD]] called [http://antithesis.nxor.org/ The Antithesis]. It is in the very early stages of development.

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

Martin

2006-02-14T02:17:03Z

Martin:

[[Image:Photo_35_small.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's avatar]]
[[Image:martin.jpg|thumb|right|Martin's old avatar]]

== About Martin ==
Martin is one of [[the]] original members of [[CompSci.ca]] - user #4 to be precise, preceeded by a test account, [[Tony]] and [[Hacker Dan]]. His birthday is January 15th, 1986, which makes him 20 years old and quickly catching up to [[the]] venerable [[wtd]]. He joined [[CompSci.ca]] on August 18th, 2002.

Currently he is a student at [[the]] [[University of Waterloo]], on a coop term in Japan (and has some [http://www.flickr.com/photos/71514888@N00/ pictures] to share) working for Epson as a [[code monkey]]. An ex-[[computer science]] student, he now studies [[applied mathematics]] and is also pursuing a minor in economics. He will be back in Waterloo for his 2A term in [[the]] Fall of 2006.

When Martin was in grade 10, he met [[Tony]] online while bitching about his marks on another Turing help website.

He occasionaly goes by [[the]] alias 'Drealoth' while online - a homage to one of his old Dungeons & Dragons characters.

On [[the]] [[IRC channel]] he goes by [[the]] name mdkess.

== Co-operative Education ==
Martin is a Waterloo co-op student, and has held two co-op jobs.

*January 2005 - April 2005. Department of National Defense, Kingston, Ontario. For his first co-op job, Martin worked for the Department of National Defense assisting in the development of their military simulation software.

*September 2005 - August 2006. Epson Avasys, Matsumoto, Japan. Martin got a job in Japan. He's not entirely sure how that happened, but now he lives in the Land of the Rising Sun developing Java applications using JavaServer Faces.

== Toys ==
Martin's current computer is an iMac G5 dual booting OSX and Debian Linux. He likes OSX, but thinks that it needs virtual terminals and Apple really has to [http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FTFF&Find=Find FTFF].

His computer is a 1.9GHz G5 with 1.5GB of DDR2 ram and a 128mb Radeon 9600 pro.

Martin's other big toy is a [http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D58900%2526CTID%253D,00.html Yamaha P140 Digital Piano] that he bought in Japan. Through use of a MIDI cable, this allows Apple's software Garage Band to slowly suck his life away.

== Politics ==
Martin votes [http://www.greenparty.ca/ Green] and thinks that you should too.

== Current Projects ==
At the moment, Martin is developing a [[MUD]] called [http://antithesis.nxor.org/ The Antithesis]. It is in the very early stages of development.

== Other interests ==
[[Image:Stella.jpg|thumb|right|Stella Artois]]
Martin is a huge indie rock fan, especially Canadian indie rock. His favourite bands include The Arcade Fire, Wolf Parade, The Stars, Death from Above 1979 and Broken Social Scene. His favourite beer is Stella Artois.

Martin is also a large fan of the many Japanese girls that he meets in his travels. He likes dancing and theoretical physics.

He strongly dislikes organized religion as well as fundamentalists of any faith.

== Quotes ==
''"JavaServer Faces + Japanese Error messages + Japanese Specification makes for one very confused Canadian code monkey."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=101407&highlight=#101407]

''"Maybe God created the earth mid-stride 100 years ago. I mean, who would want to sit around and wait for billions of years for something interesting to happen? Here, God gets an exciting 50 years complete with an economic collapse and two world wars."''[http://www.compsci.ca/v2/viewtopic.php?p=99835&highlight=#99835]

Martin

2006-02-14T02:09:48Z

Martin:

V3

2006-02-14T02:02:53Z

Martin: /* Requested */

V3

2006-02-13T07:13:46Z

Martin: /* Requested */

Talk:Dial-up

2006-02-13T01:36:17Z

Martin:

[[Cervantes]]: Martin, I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand stars.

Yeah. It's awesome :)
--[[User:Martin|Martin]] 17:36, 12 February 2006 (PST)

Dial-up

2006-02-12T17:09:40Z

Martin:

The following user(s) suffer from dial-up, a severe disorder in which connecting to the internet disables the use of the telephone. Connection speeds are hideously slow.

[[Cervantes]] - 28.8kbps

[[Martin]], on the other hand, has Japanese internet and is connected at 50mbps - that's 50,000 kbps. This is just over 1700 times faster than 28.8kbps. He regularly sees download speeds of 2.5mb/s.

Dial-up

2006-02-12T17:08:52Z

Martin:

V3

2006-02-11T10:00:47Z

Martin: /* Requested */

V3

2006-02-10T02:11:45Z

Martin:

University of Waterloo

2006-02-09T07:42:15Z

Martin: /* Other Facts */

The University of Waterloo (UW) is an excellent University in Ontario, and is home to many [[CompSci.ca]] members, including:

*[[Tony]] -> [[Mechatronics]]</li>
*[[Brenn]] -> [[Mechatronics]]</li>
*[[lyam_kaskade]] -> [[Mechatronics]]</li>
*[[Martin]] -> [[applied mathematics|Applied Mathematics]]</li>
*[[Cornflake]] -> [[computer science|Computer Science]]</li>
*[[bugzpodder]] -> [[computer science|Computer Science]]</li>
*[[Jiran]] -> [[computer science|Computer Science]]</li>

UW is a [[CompSci.ca]] breeding grounds. [[Cervantes]] and [[Hikaru79]] intend to attend UW in the fall of 2006. [[axej]] plans to attend in the fall of 2009.

== Programs Offered at the University ==
Some interesting programs of study offered at the University of Waterloo include the following:

[[Mechatronics]] Engineering [http://www.mechatronics.uwaterloo.ca/home.html]

[[computer science|Computer Science]] [http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/]

[[applied mathematics|Applied Math]] [http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/AM_Dept/index.shtml]

[[Computational Mathematics]] [http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/navigation/CompMath/]

== Other Facts ==
Annually hosts the [[CCC]] programming [[contests|contest]] as well as the [[Euclid]] math contest.

== External Links ==
[http://www.uwaterloo.ca/ University of Waterloo website]