Idiots Invade
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On March 23, 2008. Karl, a 31 year old computer scientest from New Jersey also known as SupinatorK, came into the IRC and began arguing that the US is more free than Canada. The argument spans the entire posted chat log. He eventually tries to get everyone to sign up for some forum.
<Mackie> compsci should have a meet up in newyork city on May 8th! <Karl> yeah! <Saurabh> NO! <dan> no <Karl> I'm there <Saad> Thats a little problem since most of us here are in Canada :p <dan> lets keep our meetings where humman rights are still respected <Karl> and we can cruise CGBGs <Mackie> lol * Saad has 4 monitors in his household <Saurabh> compsci meetings should be in Canada <Karl> hey, america has the best freeodms of any nation <rdrake> Sure. <Saurabh> ? <Mackie> lol <rdrake> had* <Karl> canada is too big brothery <Mackie> i think he was being sarcastic <dan> well you might be the most delisues citzen of any nation <Karl> delicous citizens? hehehe, ok morbo <Saurabh> Karl do you know what the world perception of America is? <Karl> saur, yep <Saurabh> And don't dis dan <Karl> but perception is not reality <rdrake> Oh but it is. <dan> you have wortentless wire taps <Karl> perception is due to negative propaganda <Karl> and who cares what half the world thinks <Karl> half the worldare idiots <dan> and torrter and war crimes are legeal there <Karl> what matters is... what do the GOOD countries think <Saurabh> the difference between communism and capitalism is that * rdrake sends dan to Gitmo <Saad> Define what a good country is <Karl> countries like the UK and Israel.. nd canada even <rdrake> Israel is good? <Karl> good country is a smart country with morals <Mackie> I think that a good contry is subjective <Saurabh> poeple of communist governments knew they were being lied to <Karl> Isreal is amazing <rdrake> Just double-checking. <Saad> Morals are again specific to each country <dan> it is a long stearch to put isreal in the good column <rdrake> dan, really long. <Mackie> define a country by what it is, not by what it thinks it is. <Karl> Morals are not "spefic" theere is objective good and evil <Karl> and good and evil are easy to see <dan> but if you have US as being most free, why not <Karl> hey, prove it wrong <Saad> Religion is a major factor when it comes to actually defining what morals a country has <dan> warentless wire taps? <Karl> to myknowledge US is most free, but may be wrong there <dan> torret? <dan> holding peoleop with no trilles? <Karl> warentless taps are ridiculous <dan> war crimes? <Karl> war crimees are war crimes tho <Saurabh> what would happen to you if you were against the war in Iraq during it early stages? <rdrake> I'll bet if my name was Ackbar and I went to the US, I'd be put into custody. <Karl> sory, but hav eyou fougth the terrorists face to face? go talk to a general who's been there <dan> no flight list that is used agsited peoleop that dissagre with bush? <dan> taser happy cops * Karl rolls eyes <rdrake> dan, that happens in Vancouver too! <dan> warenless searches <Karl> ned a search warrent <Saurabh> crazy lunitics wth guns <dan> breaking UN treates <Mackie> There is no war. The US made it up cause they were bored and now they want pity. <dan> breaking NAFT terates <Karl> UN is full of crap <dan> breaking NATO teartes <Saurabh> Having illegal wars <Karl> I have not heard that one <Karl> illegal wars? lol <Karl> what war is legal <rdrake> NATO? <Karl> US is not the UN's pawn <Mackie> u need to declare a war too the US didn't <Karl> uuuuh, we got atacked first <Mackie> the UN is the world court they hold authroity above all else <dan> raping of the geneive convention <Saurabh> Iraq (and Veitnam I belive) <Karl> the Un is full of crap <Mackie> when did u get attacked by iraq? <Saurabh> The US government lies to you everyday <Karl> 91, mackie <Saurabh> no that was a lie <Mackie> afganistan <dan> ummm iraq did not do 911 <Karl> who cares <Saad> Exactly lol <Mackie> lol <dan> even afgainstan did not <Karl> Saddam Hussein was an evil man <Saurabh> saddam had nothing to do with the terrorists, he was very secular <Karl> anyone who DIDN'T want to take out Saddam was a coward <Mackie> there are evil men in the US to <Karl> so US did the right thing <dan> how is kill 100,000s of ires and desotrying all support systems there better then saddam? <dan> irquies* <Karl> dan, that's eesy <Saurabh> kim jon yel is more evil ;) <Karl> becuase 1, we dind't kill 100k iraqis <dan> yes you did <Saurabh> lol <rdrake> Kim Jong-Il FTW! <Karl> and 2 if you had lived in iraq under saddm, you'd know why <dan> probly over now <Karl> no 100k iraqis that's a bald faced lie <Saurabh> ? <dan> condtions are worse in iraw now <Karl> hey dan, you want to try to argue this, come to the forum <Mackie> u through a cute puppy off a cliff <dan> what forum? <Saurabh> uder saddam iraq was one of the most well developed arab countries <Karl> right here http://s4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/ <Saad> Well said Saurabh <dan> why would i debate it there? <Karl> post political topics and will get responses <dan> why would i debate there? <Karl> becuse it can be debated sensibly there <dan> ummm, that makes no sence to me <Karl> and cause ther are intelligent computer people there * jenny20 (jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr) has joined #compsci.ca * X3 gives voice to jenny20 <dan> are you saying every one here is not intelligent? <Karl> No <Karl> I am saying the people here are intelligent <Karl> otherwise I would not invite you over there <dan> then why debate there and not here? <Karl> http://www.populartechnology.net/ << lists main ppl <Karl> Karl (Computer Scientist) <Karl> aka me <dan> do you have any points or just spaming the link? :p <Saad> lol <Karl> the point is... if you have something to say, let me see you try to argue it there <rdrake> Kim Jong-Il is a very Ronery man. <Saurabh> yea keep the discussion here please :P <Karl> cuase youa re a rational person dan, so you'll contribute to the discussion <dan> where a debate is had does not effect the vailidy of it's points * jenny20 has quit (Quit) <Saurabh> but I don't feel like signing up there <dan> it makes no sence to randomly change mediumes <Mackie> ok lets site some sources then <Karl> debating in foums is better then in chat <Karl> cause you can form whole arguments and present them without interruption <Saurabh> chat is real time, it's more engaging <Karl> and there is a record of what has passed, so do not repeat endlessly <dan> http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/ <Karl> ok post that in the pop sci forum <Mackie> ok can we stop debating medium and get back to the point <dan> Total Wounded: 29395 23000 - 100000 <Karl> I will not try to debate the dozen or so things you've posted here, it's not productive <Karl> forum debate is productive, tho <dan> lol, to me it sounds like you are trying to darg me into a basied medium or spam your site <Saad> lol <Karl> dan, whatever <Saurabh> the war in Iraq is illegal and the motive behind it was oil <Karl> if you are serious about debating politics... that is a good place to do it <Karl> cause it's fillied iwth comptuer people like us <Saurabh> no we should go to a neutral place with well informed people <Karl> and it has both libarl and conservative minded peopel on there already <Karl> it has well informed people! <Karl> look at the global warming section for instacne.. best research on the whole net <Saurabh> I would rather listen to wel informed people than argue myself <Mackie> Lets take this to the UN <dan> why would i go to a tech fourm to debate poltics? <dan> and why would i go to a tech fourm other then compsci.ca? <Karl> becuase it's a universal forum <Karl> becuase if you want to promote your ideas, trytheme there <dan> what and compsci.ca is locked out to non canadians? <Saurabh> it is? <Karl> becuase if your ideas have any merit they will be listened too <Karl> but... if you have any flaws, they will be found <Karl> so if you have the courage to try, I say try there <dan> the repsection of ones ideas does not reflect on the vaildit of them <dan> esptaly in basied mediums <Karl> what you are saying is illogical <Saurabh> ghow so? <dan> look at the case of drawn <Karl> you post your post, it stays, peopel respond to it <Karl> see what happens <Karl> why don't you try it <dan> he was wildely regarded as wrong, even in the scitegfict comunity and he seems to be more right then they where at the time <dan> or galolaoe <Karl> who? <dan> becues it is obvesly a trolling atment <dan> to start a masive flame war agsited me on a site ran by you <Karl> oh galileo (sp) <Karl> nah about flames <Karl> hmmmm, I guess you haven't been to a site like this <Saurabh> he was forced to admit that the helio centric model is correct <Saurabh> even though it wasn't <Karl> the site isn't run by me <Karl> it's run bymy borther <Saurabh> and no one listened to his rationale <Karl> who si problaby more like you then like me <Karl> so think about that <Karl> ha <Karl> it would be fun to see you two argue <Karl> and you'd both learn something, I think <dan> i am like galileo? <Karl> you are like my brother <Mackie> All this to decide what country the compsci meet up will be in... :P <Karl> mackie, hehehe * Saad smacks politics <Saurabh> CANADA!!!!!!!! <Saad> I say Waterloo, since Im there at the moment :p <Karl> I'll go to canda only if pure pwnage or college girls are there <dan> obvesly any meet up for a canadian computer sci orgastion is going to be in canada <Saurabh> Waterloo is one of the smartest cities in the world <Mackie> Oshawa is one of the dirtiest <dan> and so far it has been in waterloo each year :p <Karl> why is waterloo so smart? <Saurabh> let's meet there <Saad> dan should show up :P <rdrake> Mackie, not quite. <Mackie> lets meet in oshawa to prommote computer science! <Saurabh> we don't believe on god :P <dan> i got ot fight the bears saad <dan> who will if i go? <rdrake> Don't forget that Sarnia is our chemical capital. <Saad> Ah <Saad> Make another cyborg? <rdrake> Oshawa is a close second :-) <rdrake> And damn we're proud of it. <Saad> lol <Saurabh> cool <dan> well i will probly be in waterloo this summer <dan> so we might be able to do somthing then <Karl> "The Intelligent Community Forum named Waterloo the Top Intelligent Community of 2007" <Mackie> We went form a heated political debate to comparing dirt levels of cities :P <Saad> Heh, curse being away on summer :p <Karl> "The Intelligent Community Forum (ICF) is a nonprofit think tank that focuses on job creation and economic development in the broadband economy." <dan> well uni summer starts sooner then high school <Karl> eeeeeh, ok * Mackie will be there <Saad> TRue <Saad> True* <Karl> ICF... wrong name for the mission <dan> honstly karl i don't care if you think USA is the most free and such, you are the one that has to live there not me :p <Saurabh> Man I can't wait till university * Saad thanks that he's not on IRC <Karl> ""Intelligent Community” is ICF’s term for what others have called the wired city, smart community, or e-city. It is the community — whether a town, city, county or region — that views Internet bandwidth as the new essential utility, as vital to economic growth and public welfare as clean water and dependable electricity." <Karl> that's not "intelligent"! gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <Karl> that's just pro internet <Karl> stupid so called Intelligent Community * Karl punches the intelligent community in the head <Karl> lies <Karl> all lies <dan> i wonder what the average intelligence of a usa citzen is vs an canadian one <dan> i mean you guys have all thos sounther states down there <Karl> hehe <Saurabh> lies...like what your government feeds you? ;) <dan> thats got to lower the bar <Karl> Saur, you devil's advocate... <Karl> yeah the conferate sttes are a pain sometimes <Saurabh> you were lied to about Iraq, you were lied to about Vietnam <Saad> Gah, can we not go back to politics ._. <dan> lets move on to a diffrent topic, we obvesly do not adgree <Saurabh> I like politics <Saurabh> fine <Mackie> How about hats? <rdrake> Let's talk about kitties! <Saad> PM's are a good system <Saad> I say cookies <Karl> hey, you can stae your case on a forum and see <Karl> no harm done for trying <rdrake> About kitties? <dan> wast of my time <Karl> you can't be sure of that <Saurabh> so about kitties <Karl> you might change my mind <Mackie> dan cant waste time he is an important person <dan> any good LOL cats lately? <Karl> :-O <Saad> I say cookie stealing kittens! <Karl> teh catz r cool <rdrake> I want this one: http://gs01.isri.cs.cmu.edu/~zensoul/collection/intrigues/cats/happy_kitty.jpg <Saurabh> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv01Yo1igA <Mackie> http://remainsofthedesi.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/lol-cats-2-final.jpg <Saurabh> ^_^ <rdrake> http://z.about.com/d/cats/1/7/b/x/2/Kitty640x479.jpg * Saad likes compsci's lolcat :p <dan> http://compsci.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dwite_lolcat.jpg <dan> that evil cat is trying to steal my food right now <rdrake> I want that cat! <rdrake> The one in the video. <Karl> well, professor dan, if you trusted me you'd know it would not be a waste of time.. but eh, I tried <Mackie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA3dHi_o7Yw&NR=1 <dan> karl, we are talking about cats now <Karl> are we <Karl> it's not stalin's russie <dan> you can talk to Dr. Dan about the war some other time ;) <Karl> wwe can talk about whatever we want <Saad> Its cookie stealing cats dan! <rdrake> Love the drunk cat. <Karl> sorry but a totalitian attitude is not good <Karl> maybe that's the canadian way, but it's not the american way <Karl> ha! <Saurabh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpbtBgLfl90&feature=related I'm hungry for some chicken <Karl> me dances <Karl> doh * Karl dances <Saad> Sigh, your more arrogant then anything <Karl> *you're more arrogant <Karl> hehehe * Saurabh oh * Saurabh so thats how you do it <Karl> heh, arrogance is an easy excuse <Karl> I know you've got cognitive dissonance <dan> karl you are starting to get rather anyonying and insualting <rdrake> Hm... we could talk about calculus instead. <rdrake> Everybody loves that! <Saurabh> calcu what? <Karl> "This CIWF footage shows real examples of animals being slaughtered and may be distressing for many people" <Mackie> Please? i dont know even the basics of calculus. I hear it's important <Karl> are you a vegetarian, Saur? <Saurabh> forgot about that <Saurabh> kinda <Karl> cool, like me <rdrake> Mackie, it is important. <rdrake> Lots of useful stuff. <Saurabh> My parents are vegetarian, but I ocasionally eat meat <md> hey hey <dan> the only meat i eat is chicken <Saurabh> why chicken? <Saad> Hey md <Saad> How goes? * Saad loves chicken <dan> well it is white meat and the least dicusting of all the meats <Saurabh> are you an animaist? <Saad> Aswell has cow organs :p <md> I didn't win hte poker game <dan> realy i would rather eat no meat but that is not realsitic <md> but I had lots of fun <Saad> Damn it md! <Saurabh> lol * Saad hates red meat <Mackie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qit3ALTelOo&feature=related <Saurabh> I eat any meat that's not sea food <md> red meat? <md> where?! * md wants it! <Karl> ah, it's no big deal <Saad> If I had some, I would give it ;) <Karl> people get too worked up <Karl> lose perspective <Saad> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snV2_JF4Oes <Karl> I have learned to debate without getting angry <Karl> sorry if others gotten angry, tho <Saurabh> I don't have emotions <Karl> heh <dan> karl, this link is for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3_n0B1EaOY <dan> .k dan * X3 has kicked dan from #compsci.ca ((dan) Bye.) <Saad> Hahahaha * dan (dan@hacker_dan.Users.AfterNET.Org) has joined #compsci.ca * X3 gives channel operator status to dan * X3 gives voice to dan <Karl> hehehe <Karl> dan kicked by the bot! ooooooooooh <Saurabh> pwned :P <dan> acuatly i kicked my self <Saad> Err he kicked himself <Saad> ._. <Karl> dancage! <Karl> dance-age <dan> to complie with the rules :p <Karl> x-x <Karl> I see <Karl> interessant <rdrake> dan, where's Anna? <Karl> mm anna <dan> not here, she is busy <Karl> awwwwwwwwwwww <dan> :p <Saurabh> Soo.....what type of music do you gus listen to? <md> who is karl and why am I already annoyed? <Karl> hehe <Karl> clasic rock and hard rock <Saurabh> Karl anna is a bot <md> ahh, carl is from new jersy <md> thus I have no qualms kicking his ass out of my quietness <dan> rdrake, i have to use the windows side of my laptop for the group project i am working on and anna is on the linux side <Karl> Anna is a bot... she bans you so hard! <rdrake> Ah. * AMailer has quit (Quit) <Karl> here's a good song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjdEHlhZ6AE <dan> once the code is more tested i plan on puting it on the server <Karl> so who is md and why is md annoying himself? * X3 sets channel limit to 24 <Mackie> i wouldnt do that if i were u karl <md> I am a foul tempered op, who if you annoy enough will ban you from here <Saurabh> take it back...... <Karl> Oh ok <md> and in the mean time... <md> .k Karl Thanks for playing "Piss of md!" You win a nice big fat kick * X3 has kicked Karl from #compsci.ca ((md) Thanks for playing "Piss of md!" You win a nice big fat kick) * Karl (no@c-69-253-64-213.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #compsci.ca * X3 gives voice to Karl <Karl> hey, why is mackie still up a school night? <Saurabh> no school <Mackie> easter monday <Karl> ooh <dan> zombie jesus day <rdrake> School for us. <Saad> None for me <dan> realy? <dan> none for me either <Saad> Although much to do once back <rdrake> Nobody else I know has it off, either. <rdrake> I'm glad I don't though... too many lectures lost. <dan> well i think i have it off >_> <rdrake> It's only a stat day so you might wish to double-check. <Karl> aaaaaaaaaah, another revelation! <Karl> of course... it's all so patterned <dan> well the lakehead site says we get "Easter Monday" off <Karl> I must go for now <Saurabh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCVrb9pxA4 <rdrake> Ah. <Mackie> cya karl <dan> as well as "Good Friday" <Karl> talk to you all later <Karl> have fun, everyone * Karl waves <Saurabh> bye * Karl has quit (Quit) <Saad> Thank the gods! <dan> thank god <Mackie> lol <Saurabh> whew * Saad starts a party * X3 sets channel limit to 23 * Mackie heads to the wiki to document this incedent.
